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  Update on My Journey: 8 Years After the End of Watchtower Control

  by passwordprotected in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i last updated you guys almost 2 years ago here.. i thought i'd post an update.. the peace i discovered having decided to let the angst, worry and fear over what to believe is as strong as ever, although i am keeping more abreast of what jw.org (formerly known as wtbts) is up to, and i never cease to be shocked and surprised.. as my last post mentioned, i split from the jw girl i married in 1993 and both of us have moved on with new partners that better fit who we are as grown adults, rather than the children we were 23 years ago.. my partner has no religious background whatsoever, although her children are being raised as catholics by their father.

  hearing her kids openly doubt, question and even ridicule the religion is heartwarming and exactly the way it should be.. as for my children, they continue to be a never-ending stream of joy and pride.. my oldest son is now 16, having been only 8 years old when we left the watchtower.

  he had big anxiety problems for a while afterwards, worrying about armageddon etc.

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  stan livedeath

  hi there from a fellow Brit--although opposite end of the country.
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  Help - I'm going to be conducting the watchtower study

  by Saltheart Foamfollower in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it looks like i'm going to have to take the watchtower study for a while so i thought i'd seek help.. i wont be outing myself or stating anything too controversial, but so far i have come up with the following tactics : 1) ask questions which will get people thinking even if it is about something insignificant - developing a questioning mind is the key to discovering ttat as far as i am concerned.

  2) highlight any extreme points so that some might realise they are extreme.

  3) highlight any good points - helping others in need for example - just because it is the right thing to do.. if anyone has any general comments which could help, please post them here.

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  stan livedeath

  try asking the question for the next paragraph--see if anyone notices
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  Why do witnesses feel the need to put JW ORG on all their social media sites?

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  have you all noticed the obsession witnesses have of putting jw.org on all their social media sites like facebook, twitter, instagram etc?.

  so many put it in their bio section...like some sort of loud proclamation to other witnesses that they are righteous and spreading the message.. it's also very lazy.

  now with no personal effort at all, they can just say jw.org and be "witnessing".

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  stan livedeath

  they are jay-worgans
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  Wow... There More Closet Faders Than I Thought

  by pale.emperor in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  yep, im still fading.

  i know it's gonna be a long and meticulous process but so far it's going well.

  isnt it funny how when you stop reading the material and stop thinking yourself of being unworthy all the time - eventually you get happier and happier each day and see the world around you the way it is?

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  stan livedeath

  i wonder how many "younger" ones are stuck in the cult--even though they have no interest in it--simply to please controlling overbearing parents ?

  for example--my born in ex wife and i had 3 kids--all grown and married with kids of their own. my oldest--and youngest--are still in--and have shunned me totally for many years. my middle one--son age 40 is out--and is totally shunned by his mother---but has a close relationship with me now.

  but--even when she ( my ex ) dies--she will still be controlling them.......if they quit the cult after she dies--then they wont get to see her resurrected into the brave new world.

  oh--in case you hadnt guessed--i hate the watchtower.cult.
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  She displayed a literature cart in front of my house: That does it for me!

  by Tempest in a Teacup in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  is this something they've asked them to do?

  cart displays in front of their homes?

  my mom is only in her mid 60s so i'm quite sure this is not an issue of mental illness.. the only illness she's suffering from is boredom since she's refused to work for years now.

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  stan livedeath

  teacup---move out.
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  She displayed a literature cart in front of my house: That does it for me!

  by Tempest in a Teacup in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  is this something they've asked them to do?

  cart displays in front of their homes?

  my mom is only in her mid 60s so i'm quite sure this is not an issue of mental illness.. the only illness she's suffering from is boredom since she's refused to work for years now.

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  stan livedeath

  i would just pour a cup of petrol over the cartfull and--whooosh
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  She displayed a literature cart in front of my house: That does it for me!

  by Tempest in a Teacup in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  is this something they've asked them to do?

  cart displays in front of their homes?

  my mom is only in her mid 60s so i'm quite sure this is not an issue of mental illness.. the only illness she's suffering from is boredom since she's refused to work for years now.

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  this is just too funny for words.
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  How was your wedding?

  by BeautifulMind in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  how was your wedding?

  did you have a jw wedding or something different?

  my wedding was not what either of us wanted at first, but it turned out very lovely.

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  stan livedeath

  ours was fine thanks--3 weeks ago

  
  
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  Jehovah Witness vs Jehovah's Witness

  by Simon in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  being brought up as a jehovah's witness means you are so used to the term that you rarely stop to think about it.. one thing i've noticed is that people unfamiliar with the religion will say "jehovah witness" (no 's) instead which i always found a bit grating.. but watching the us election, something struck me.

  people are often referred to as "trump supporters", not "trump's supporters" and so on.

  thinking about other things, people would say they were "united fan's", not "united's fans" and so on.. it seems weird that a group would refer to themselves as though it was someone else talking about them (in the 3rd person, if i have that right).. what do you think?

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  stan livedeath

  @ Simon

  
  

  I forget the name of the comedian in the UK but I remember the line "someone came to my door and said they were a Jehovah Witness, I said I didn't even know there'd been an accident".

  that was the late Tommy Cooper---i saw it on tv.

  
  
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  Why it's a waste of time talking to JW's

  by Phizzy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i believe it to be a waste of time talking to, reasoning with, jw's if you expect any kind of quick result.. many of us when we first wake up think that 'coz ttatt is blindingly obvious to us, it will soon get through to our jw loved ones.. this simply isn't so for a couple of important reasons.

  the first is that, if someone believes something is true, or the truth, to them it really is, without doubt, true.

  so whatever you say must be wrong somehow.. the second problem is that jw's simply do not have to use, or pay any attention to facts and logic.

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  stan livedeath

  try all you like--but a simple fact of life is-----

  ---you cannot polish a turd.